Construction orders and applications for apartment renovation without intermediaries! How to find conscientious builders Private construction teams of houses.

If you need a construction team to build a house, you can hire them by favorable cost now on youdo.com. Experienced performers will be able to start the task immediately after agreeing on the terms of your cooperation or within the agreed time frame.

The construction of a dacha (bathhouse, outbuildings) in the Moscow region, ordered on YouDo, is carried out in accordance with current engineering standards and technologies. For the future home, you can choose one of finished projects or order the creation of a new one from Yuda's performers. The price for the services of specialists hired on youdo.com will be 20-30% lower than the cost of work carried out by specialized services in Moscow.

How to profitably order the construction of a dacha in the suburbs?

To find by erection country houses turnkey and/or outbuildings around them, create a corresponding task on YouDo. As accurately as possible, formulate your requirements for the workers you are looking for, and indicate them in the application. Further, the terms of cooperation will be additionally agreed with the contractor (foreman) found in Yuda. You will install:

what types of buildings are required (a private residential building, a bathhouse, garden or outbuildings), as well as their number
projects of houses under construction
when the team hired by YouDo must start and finish the construction of a private house, garden gazebo etc.
varieties of materials that are needed for the construction of houses made of bricks, timber, monolithic panels, etc.
the price for the services of the construction team, etc.

During the negotiation process, you can also discuss possible discounts for the construction of a dacha in Moscow and the conditions for obtaining them.

The cost of services of builders in Yuda

In the profiles of teams registered on youdo.com you can find information about how much it costs to build Vacation home from logs or other materials. Prices are approximate and depend on the conditions under which the work will take place. The final cost of the order depends on:

type of services that require a team of builders to build a house: turnkey construction of a building or its individual parts (foundation, walls, roof, etc.)
the complexity of building a house (depending on the project, the conditions of the area on which the building plot is located, etc.)
the time allotted for the construction of a house in Moscow

You can save a lot when ordering large volumes of work, as well as with long-term cooperation with the selected Yudu contractor. There are always free workers on youdo.com, you can order their services around the clock. A team of builders hired by YouDo to build a house will complete your task with high quality, inexpensively and in a short time.

Below I will describe my experience, how I chose builders to build a house for permanent residence.

After reading this manual, you will complete guide to action and my personal experience about how not to make a mistake when choosing builders and then not regret the lost money, time and nerves.

I must say right away that the builders do not like such instructions and a couple of times they wrote me completely unflattering comments.

At the end of the article, I wrote down and posted detailed video, which will give even more answers.

Here are examples of the most popular Russian construction forums

Many write there that the builders divorced, did it poorly, missed the deadlines, didn’t do it to the end, etc.

Or maybe people just didn’t look there and didn’t look like that?

Where to look

Below I write a list in ascending order of the probability of a successful outcome, that is, at the end of more useful options, but it is better to read everything so as not to step on other people's rakes.

From friends through word of mouth

The best option is word of mouth. If there are friends who built good house, then let them give you the contacts of the builders, but there is a problem right away - you are unlikely to find such acquaintances. Even if a good house was built for someone, the builders will still turn out to be scoundrels, whose hands grow out of the wrong place. I do not consider elite repairs with budgets of 10 million. So we discard this option.

Through the Internet on sites

You look through 5-10 sites, call 3-5 times, they will tell you that you need a project, after that they will be able to calculate the cost. And in 99% percent they will offer to make a project and then calculate the cost. No one will talk to you without a project, and if they do, they will include 200% in the cost for insurance. As a result, after spending 2-3 hours in vain, you will start looking for other options.

In large companies

It all depends on who you get. If the manager is intelligent (it happens extremely rarely, since they work on a salary and a minimum%, there is no motivation), then he will be able to pick something up for you. But again, without a project, the cost will not realistically be calculated.

sketch out your wishes on a piece of paper and select a project on the Internet, this will greatly speed up the choice of builders and determining the price of construction

In large companies, after the project is approved, each edit will cost you a lot. There, in order to change something, multi-stage coordination is needed and it is easier to leave it as it is. In addition, they will write in the contract that a deviation from the project will increase the cost, up to 200%.

Via Bulletin Boards

There are several large sites, below are links to them

There are a lot of ads and among them you can find a good team for building a house, but keep in mind that you will have to call at least 30-50 ads, and then somehow filter out unscrupulous workers, and there are 99% of such on ad sites. They do not value their reputation, they constantly change phones, jump off objects halfway, and then again they are placed under new data.

Through Avito I found one foreman, moreover, a Muscovite. He is a foreman, he has 2 teams and he works with them himself. But his price tag turned out to be higher (the difference was 100 thousand rubles) than that of the builders whom I found elsewhere.

Forums

This is the only place where performers value their reputation.

And there is only one large normal forum - Forum House. Here is the link https://www.forumhouse.ru

Below I will write detailed instructions as I was looking for. Maybe you can find something else, but in my opinion this is the ideal option.

When to start looking

Autumn-winter, by March, so that you already have a team selected and a plan for arriving at the site is drawn up.

Otherwise, if you start looking in January-February, then, God forbid, they will put you in line for the fall, since everything is scheduled in the summer, and a good specialist never sits without work. Given that the construction of a house on average takes 2-3 months, then in the season (when the weather allows) you can make 2-3 houses maximum.

Building out of season (from late autumn to early spring) is bad, long and dreary.
But much cheaper

My builders (who built for me) are working all year round, but it takes longer to build in the cold, productivity and quality drops a lot, so keep that in mind.

How I was looking for a good team to build a house

Search for builders on the Forum House website https://www.forumhouse.ru

I must say right away that this is not a quick business, but at the end you save hundreds of thousands of rubles, and most importantly your nerves and time, since it is very dreary to rebuild or look for another brigade halfway through.

Go and register on the exchange as a customer https://www.forumhouse.ru/exchange

They entered confirmation by SMS on the phone.

Create 3 accounts (not one and not 2, namely 3)
Place your order

And you create 3 such orders (one from each account- that is, allegedly 3 new users make 3 different orders), only you need 3 different numbers for confirmation (an SMS code will come).

Make orders different and do not create on the same day, it is better with a break of 2-3 weeks, that's why:

so that they do not suspect that you are the same person.
good specialists do not constantly sit on the forum, but mostly beginners or intermediaries sit. In order to catch specialists, we distribute orders by time.

When creating accounts, use different computers or different browsers (programs through which you watch sites - opera, chrome, mozilla)

Next, collect applications. Many applications will overlap. You can safely bargain with performers for overlapping applications and see how willingly a person is inferior in price. Having received at least 20 applications, you will already have an understanding of the average price.

I chose from over 100 proposals and negotiated with about 20 foremen and teams. At the exit, I already chose from three

This is a full-time job that takes several weeks, but it pays for itself completely.

What questions to ask.

To understand the topic of the builder or not, in any case, you will have to delve into the construction technology yourself. Nothing without this.

I will describe the questions with an example frame house. For other types of houses, you can make a list yourself.

Questions for builders on frame houses

1. The sequence of the wall cake outside (facade, wind protection, insulation, vapor barrier, interior decoration) many are confused where what film is placed

2. Do I need a ventilation gap at the frame house (definitely yes, if the answer is "no", I recommend immediately weeding out such builders)

3. Which side to put the vapor barrier - villi inward or outward (outward, as they collect drops and prevent them from penetrating into the depth of the wall)

4. We want big windows from the floor, won't a lot of heat escape through them? (if they say that we will deliver good double glazing and it won’t be, then immediately a refusal, since any coating burns out after 2-3 years and through large windows you will bake in the summer, and in the winter you will get tired of heating the house)

5. Is the thickness of the insulation different in the walls and ceiling? (there should be at least 20-30% more in the ceiling). Some make 150 mm wall insulation, and 100 mm are laid in the ceiling roll insulation poorly rolled and then wonder where the heat goes)

6. Most important question!!!
Above load bearing capacity for a bar 150 * 150mm or for knocked together thin bars 50 * 150? (if they answer that one is thick, then immediately a refusal, because as a single bar in 99% will turn out over time, it will dry out and weaken)

After you have chosen the right ones in terms of price and level.

Viewing current objects (departure to houses under construction)

Ask for current or completed objects - to see how the situation is at the construction site.

What to look out for

Cleanliness in the area.
If the working pigs, then they will build a house for you as well.
Compliance with technology
There are many subtleties, and you better understand the technology. For example, they almost always insulate poorly, the insulation is not plugged evenly, and then the house becomes cold in winter. Someone, for example, blows mineral wool under pressure, but there is no way to check this within the walls and it’s not a fact that it will be 100% evenly and densely distributed.
Talk to neighbors.
Neighbors will tell you best of all how the brigade behaves. Almost always, neighbors respond normally to such questions, and the fact that you contact them with a request will almost always add to their self-esteem.
Take the phone of the owner of the house that is being built and chat with him. If the builders object, take this number from your neighbors, and builders minus karma for distrust and secrecy.
Find out the last name and first name of the builders and punch them through Yandex for such requests
Full name - reviews
link example https://yandex.ru/search/?lr=213&msid=1503892936.11225.22900.15156&text=%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE %D0%B2%20%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB%20%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0 %BB%D1%8F%20%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%B2%D1%8B

Entrust everything to one company or divide by different contractors.

I divided it in different ways. It is cheaper, better quality, but much more dreary. Considering that some people built my house, and others provided heating and electrics, there were no difficulties, since I brought them together at the initial stage and they worked together, despite the fact that I drew up the project myself and 100% knew what would be where.

But usually they build a house and only then they realize that it was necessary to lay the wiring in the floor or start water with a sewer. But these are already the problems of those who did not draw up a project or built not according to drawings, but along the way (and there are 95% of them).

And most importantly, each brigade blames the previous one for saying they did it wrong, and the previous ones have already gone to another facility and will be able to redo it only in 2-3 months.

As a result, the question is debatable - how is it better. For example, there are few specialists in heating and they work only for themselves, and if your foreman connects them and takes on warranty obligations, he will definitely add 20% (50-100 thousand) to the estimate, and if you negotiate with them on straight, then in the event of an accident, they can jump off, saying that the house was built clumsily.

ADVICE

Enter into a warm trusting relationship with all builders, do not bargain if the guys have already started working and do not spare money (if they say to buy an Italian crane for 500 r, and not a Chinese one for 150, then it’s better), in the future this will allow you to get a good one, and most importantly a quick warranty repair.

Treaty

Everything that you write down in the contract will not give you anything at all. Since you will be sent to hell with him, one out of 1000 will reach the court, and most importantly, the court order still needs to be executed, and the bailiffs certainly have nothing more to do than beat your 200,000 from a hard worker who doesn’t even have his own house.

Therefore, I am writing instructions on what to look for when agreeing with the team, the foreman in a kind dialogue and subtly hint that if there is a delay, then the payment will be cut proportionally. But it’s better to write everything down on paper in the form (it won’t be superfluous)

1. Timing

The timing of the start of construction, the timing of the completion of each stage (I paid in stages, but then as agreed), the deadlines for the completion of the object.

final amount. But there is such a moment, for example, it is difficult to calculate the roof 100%, as well as the area of \u200b\u200bthe facade or the number of insulation (I thought in the archicade I had an error of 2-3%, but still for money it’s 20-30 thousand). Therefore, it is better to discuss the cost of materials and, if not enough, then buy more, than to prescribe a fixed amount and the builders will buy with a margin and leave the rest for themselves.

3. warranty

The warranty covers more engineering systems, since the house, if built correctly (and we chose the right builders), then nothing will happen to it.

In any case, write down that if something breaks, then the contractor (performer) undertakes to eliminate the malfunction within 2 days. Since if a pump or a boiler flies, then without water and heat you will give oak quickly.

Video

conclusions

1. Before you start selecting builders, decide what you want (outline the project, select appearance Houses).

2. Look for builders through friends or forums, that is, where people value their reputation.

3. Call 30-50 builders / companies, communicate, clarify the intricacies of technology, be meticulous.

4. Ask for objects under construction in order to check whether the construction technology is followed correctly and whether there is order on the construction site.

5. Reasonably bargain and choose from those offers that you like. Do not bring down the price too much, because later you will regret it yourself (they will save on you, and krailovo, as you know, leads to hit-and-run).

7. Conclude an agreement in which clearly prescribe the terms (if you do not comply, then prescribe fines) as well as warranty conditions (if something breaks, so that they come and fix the breakdown within 1-2 days).

You can spend 2-4 weeks calling, searching message boards, reading forums where tens of thousands are dissatisfied.

Or you can write to me, I will advise you on the best thing to do, give the contacts of the builders who built the house for me, and also help me avoid all the mistakes that I made.

Need an electrician to complete electrical work. The facility is a children's clinic. Located in Shushary. Complete cable laying without chasing. Installation of sockets and switches about 30 pcs. Installation of fixtures in Armstrong 44pcs. Collect the shield. Payment in stages. Call until 20.00

Geographically Shushary

29.10.2019 Customer

A team of 10-15 people is required for the installation of gypsum boards - Walls in one layer - 1000 sq.m. / 280 rub. - Partitions in two layers - 550 sq.m. / 410 rub. - Ceilings in one layer - 450 sq.m. / 430 rub. We give out the tool, we give out the material. Piecework payment.

Geographically St. Petersburg

29.10.2019 Customer

Finishers needed for redecorating apartments in Kaluga. The walls are putty, primer, wallpaper-186r.m2. The floors in the bathrooms in the corridor and kitchens are tiles-300r.m2. Tiles on the walls-380r.m2. Laminate on the floor 135r.m2. Installation assembled door 500r. Box from gkl-265r.m2. Stucco strobe 8t.r floor. Installation of floor plinth 22r.m.p. Slopes for painting. 130r.m2. Volume of 13 floors with 5 apartments per floor. 2 apartments 3-room and 3 one-room. Deadlines until March 1st. Payment every 2 weeks by any means. We need a team of at least 15 people.

Geographically Kaluga

29.10.2019 Customer

Painters are required, painting walls and ceilings, we will consider only those who are ready to go out and paint. Accommodation on the spot is possible, a day from 2500 rubles

Geographically Moscow

29.10.2019 Customer

It is necessary to repair a room of 140-150 sq m in Moscow. Opening in the ceiling with the device monolithic stairs, tiles on the stairs and floor, wall plastering, installation of partitions made of tongue-and-groove slabs with a total area of 126 sq m, electrics, painting the ceiling in black and suspended ceiling, arrangement of a toilet 4 sq m, laying tiles at the service entrance. accommodation is possible. The total cost of work without materials is 350,000 rubles.

Geographically Moscow

29.10.2019 Customer

It is necessary to change the input cables to the apartments. Requires cable pulling and pipe installation. Punching holes in the apartment, installation of the cable channel. Disconnect all electricians with a permit. Accommodation in a rented apartment.

Geographically Kirishi, Volkhovskaya 6

28.10.2019 Customer

I am looking for a team to carry out a major overhaul in a room with a total area of 320 sq.m. (15 rooms + utility rooms). List of main works: alteration of interroom. foam block partitions - 30 sq.m; plastering and Painting works- 1000 sq.m.; wall tiles 200 sq.m.; floor tiles 140 sq.m.; laminate flooring 170 sq.m.; suspended or stretch ceiling 320 sq.m.; construction of a concrete ladder with 5 steps and a mezzanine of 3 sq.m. Installation of doors, skirting boards, window sills, repair window slopes, installation of plumbing fixtures (17 bathrooms) - the whole complex repair work with the exception of the screed, electrical and plumbing communications. Start of work - in the coming days. Without intermediaries and advances! Payment is phased, in cash in the hands of the workers!

Geographically Moscow, Aviamotornaya street

Below I will describe my experience, how I chose builders to build a house for permanent residence.

After reading this manual, you will receive a complete guide to action and my personal experience on how not to make a mistake when choosing builders and then not regret the lost money, time and nerves.

I must say right away that the builders do not like such instructions and a couple of times they wrote me completely unflattering comments.

At the end of the article, I recorded and posted a detailed video that will give even more answers.

Here are examples of the most popular Russian construction forums

Many write there that the builders divorced, did it poorly, missed the deadlines, didn’t do it to the end, etc.

Or maybe people just didn’t look there and didn’t look like that?

Where to look

Below I am writing a list in ascending order of the probability of a successful outcome, that is, at the end there are more useful options, but it is better to read everything so as not to step on other people's rakes.

From friends through word of mouth

The best option is word of mouth. If you have friends who have a good house built, then let them give you the contacts of the builders, but there is a problem right away - you are unlikely to find such acquaintances. Even if a good house was built for someone, the builders will still turn out to be scoundrels, whose hands grow out of the wrong place. I do not consider elite repairs with budgets of 10 million. So we discard this option.

Through the Internet on sites

In large companies

sketch out your wishes on a piece of paper and select a project on the Internet, this will greatly speed up the choice of builders and determining the price of construction

Via Bulletin Boards

There are several large sites, below are links to them

Forums

This is the only place where performers value their reputation.

And there is only one large normal forum - Forum House. Here is the link https://www.forumhouse.ru

Below I will write detailed instructions as I was looking for. Maybe you can find something else, but in my opinion this is the ideal option.

When to start looking

Autumn-winter, by March, so that you already have a team selected and a plan for arriving at the site is drawn up.

Building out of season (from late autumn to early spring) is bad, long and dreary.
But much cheaper

My builders (who built for me) work all year round, but it takes longer to build in the cold, productivity and quality drops a lot, so take this into account.

How I was looking for a good team to build a house

Search for builders on the Forum House website https://www.forumhouse.ru

Go and register on the exchange as a customer https://www.forumhouse.ru/exchange

They entered confirmation by SMS on the phone.

Create 3 accounts (not one and not 2, namely 3)
Place your order

And you create 3 such orders (one from each account - that is, allegedly 3 new users make 3 different orders), only you need 3 different numbers for confirmation (an SMS code will come).

Make orders different and do not create on the same day, it is better with a break of 2-3 weeks, that's why:

so that they do not suspect that you are the same person.
good specialists do not constantly sit on the forum, but mostly beginners or intermediaries sit. In order to catch specialists, we distribute orders by time.

When creating accounts, use different computers or different browsers (programs through which you watch sites - opera, chrome, mozilla)

I chose from over 100 proposals and negotiated with about 20 foremen and teams. At the exit, I already chose from three

This is a full-time job that takes several weeks, but it pays for itself completely.

What questions to ask.

To understand the topic of the builder or not, in any case, you will have to delve into the construction technology yourself. Nothing without this.

I will describe the issues using the example of a frame house. For other types of houses, you can make a list yourself.

Questions for builders on frame houses

1. The sequence of the pie of the wall outside (facade, wind protection, insulation, vapor barrier, interior decoration) many are confused where which film is placed

2. Do I need a ventilation gap at the frame house (definitely yes, if the answer is "no", I recommend immediately weeding out such builders)

3. Which side to put the vapor barrier - villi inward or outward (outward, as they collect drops and prevent them from penetrating into the depth of the wall)

4. We want large windows from the floor, won't a lot of heat escape through them? (if they say that we will put a good double-glazed window and will not, then immediately a refusal, since any spraying burns out after 2-3 years and through large windows you will bake in the summer, and in the winter you will get tired of heating the house)

5. Is the thickness of the insulation different in the walls and ceiling? (there should be at least 20-30% more in the ceiling. Some people insulate the walls 150, and 100 mm of poorly rolled insulation are laid in the ceiling and then they wonder where the heat goes)

6. The most important question!!!
Is the bearing capacity higher for a bar 150 * 150mm or for thin bars hammered together 50 * 150? (if they answer that one is thick, then immediately a refusal, because as a single bar in 99% will turn out over time, it will dry out and weaken)

After you have chosen the right ones in terms of price and level.

Viewing current objects (departure to houses under construction)

Ask for current or completed objects - to see how the situation is at the construction site.

What to look out for

Cleanliness in the area.
If the working pigs, then they will build a house for you as well.
Compliance with technology
There are many subtleties, and you better understand the technology. For example, they almost always insulate poorly, the insulation is not plugged evenly, and then the house becomes cold in winter. Someone, for example, blows mineral wool under pressure, but there is no way to check this within the walls and it’s not a fact that it will be 100% evenly and densely distributed.
Talk to neighbors.
Neighbors will tell you best of all how the brigade behaves. Almost always, neighbors respond normally to such questions, and the fact that you contact them with a request will almost always add to their self-esteem.
Take the phone of the owner of the house that is being built and chat with him. If the builders object, take this number from your neighbors, and builders minus karma for distrust and secrecy.
Find out the last name and first name of the builders and punch them through Yandex for such requests
Full name - reviews
link example https://yandex.ru/search/?lr=213&msid=1503892936.11225.22900.15156&text=%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE %D0%B2%20%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BB%20%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0 %BB%D1%8F%20%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B7%D1%8B%D0%B2%D1%8B

Entrust everything to one company or divide by different contractors.

And most importantly, each brigade blames the previous one for saying they did it wrong, and the previous ones have already gone to another facility and will be able to redo it only in 2-3 months.

ADVICE

Treaty

1. Timing

The timing of the start of construction, the timing of the completion of each stage (I paid in stages, but then as agreed), the deadlines for the completion of the object.

3. warranty

The guarantee applies more to engineering systems, since if a house is built correctly (and we chose the right builders), then nothing will happen to it.

Video

conclusions

1. Before you start selecting builders, decide what you want (outline the project, choose the look of the house).

2. Look for builders through friends or forums, that is, where people value their reputation.

3. Call 30-50 builders / companies, communicate, clarify the intricacies of technology, be meticulous.

4. Ask for objects under construction in order to check whether the construction technology is followed correctly and whether there is order on the construction site.

You can spend 2-4 weeks calling, searching message boards, reading forums where tens of thousands are dissatisfied.

Or you can write to me, I will advise you on the best thing to do, give the contacts of the builders who built the house for me, and also help me avoid all the mistakes that I made.

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