That first bath or tiles on the wall. Eliminating the problem of a large gap between the bathroom and the wall Nuances when performing work
Victoria Vyrupaeva
Are the bathroom tiles first laid on the floor or walls? Walls first. You don't want to damage the floor, if the other way around? It happens that the tool falls, the tiles are dropped, even if the hardboard is laid on top, it will still break through in some places. Read about the masonry methods http://dushik.ru/start.html Of course, on the walls! The floor, then a bath is placed on the floor, and tiles are laid on the walls from the level of the bath On the walls
Victoria Krysova
We are doing repairs in the bathroom. There was a dispute: should the tiles be laid on the floor or on the walls first? How many tilers - so many opinions I tried it myself in different ways, I chose for myself - first the floor, so that then the walls were to be supported on a horizontal surface. In addition, floor tiles are cut much worse than wall tiles - you can't get to finished walls ... That's right and so, but it is better to start with the walls, then if the floor is not ideal, the lower tiles can be cut so that the seam is the same along the entire perimeter.
Christina Lokhotskaya
When renovating a bathroom, should the tiles be laid on the floor or on the walls first? First, slap the floor on the walls - it's complete nonsense, if the door changes, then you should start with it, then fit the new floor to the threshold, and then lay the walls on the flat horizon of the floor, thereby blocking the trims on the floor. sequence ... on the walls. On the walls On the floor. then a bath then tiles on the walls. If you first need to wait on the floor when it hardens and when laying tiles on the walls, the new floor can be smeared
Oleg Trifonov
Laying tiles in the bathroom (+) What is the right way to put the tiles on the walls first, and then on the floor, or vice versa? Walls first, and then the floor. They put me on the floor first. Walls first, then the floor! It is not important in what order to lay, the main thing is that the floor tiles go under the wall so that the water from the wall flows down onto the floor tiles, and not into the seam. Walls first, and then the floor. This is as convenient as it is. In any case, if you want to lay tiles on the floor and walls, the order of work does not affect the technology in any way. Here everything rather depends on the desired result (the size of the joints, which tiles ...
Alena Terebova
Vladimir Korelin
Should you lay the floor first or the walls in the bathroom? First you need to align the walls, according to the beacons, and only then., Otherwise it will be like a bull pissed, oh sorry pissed. Somehow SO On the floor, you work, mix the mortar, prick the tiles, smoke, scrub shorter, etc. first the walls, and with the floor you finish all this beauty) Maybe we are wrong, but first we made the floor. It is possible in different ways, although ideally, first from the second row, then the floor, then the tab of the first row
Gleb Chugin
Do you put the bathroom doors first or put the tiles? Everyone advises differently. And when to put tiles on the floor? Thanks. The doors are placed after the walls and floor have been pasted - on the finished floor. Then the tiles are glued around the door and slopes are made of tiles or door frames. After that, all the glued tiles are trowelled and Yana has been tiling for 10 years! First, put the door with the box! Then the door is removed (the box remains in place The tiles are laid on the walls (Except the bottom row and only then the floor (the floor last! Because if the floor ...
Vitaly Vargasov
In the bathroom, how to make tiles first, the floor or walls? Walls Probably walls. Of course the walls are what a question. Walls First the floor, then you put the bath, then the walls. Naturally the walls The walls are Sergey, the renovation, like the rain, comes from top to bottom. Wall tiles first
Valeria Fatieva
Please tell me where to start laying tiles in the bathroom, from the floor or from the walls? Do you need tiles behind the bathroom? When to put the bath? First, put the tiles on the floor, this is the easiest way, then you install the bathtub, lay out the walls, there is no point in laying the tiles behind the bathroom; Walls, floor, bath. First, the floor, then you try on the bathtub, remove it, then the walls, then the final installation of the bathtub. Behind the bathroom - at your discretion, but you can also save money.
Elizaveta Gubinskaya
What do you first need to do in the bathroom, ceiling or tiles? And why is it so At first, the floors were leveled. then the tiles were laid, then the ceiling. Ceilings last. Depends on the ceiling covering. If this is something in the form of paint (whitewash) then they are the first. If stretch or suspended, then they are the last I made the ceiling last. I have it stretching. But at the same time, I left a place for him, that is, it was without a tile. Stretch ceilings are not so easy to do. If you decide to make a different kind of ceiling, then do it first ...
Ksenia Gorshkova
And what in the bathroom should you first lay the tiles or change the door? First you need to align the walls in the bathroom, and then decide whether the tiles will fit the box or whether there will be a wooden frame with platbands on the side of the bathtub. Based on this, the issue is being resolved. First the door, then the tiles under the door will have to be adjusted. First the door tiles, then the tiles! Change the door of course. It's much easier! A false box is placed (this is if the casing is only on one side and the tile fits directly to the box), the tiles are brought in, and then after all the work, a door with a new box is placed
Alexander Richter
Tell me, are the tiles in the bathroom put first on the floor or on the walls? And then every master says differently! Look until the light bulb where that one is more beautiful and put it second. I put it on the walls and then on the floor. This prevents the floor from getting dirty. Each master says differently because everyone's bathroom is different and each master has a different method. but there is no single rule, you need to look at the screed, walls, how and where the pipes pass, and how you will hide them, and so on.
Artem Pelyavin
Where to start laying tiles in the bathroom from the floor or from the walls (leveling is first of all) From the floor. It is better to lay the tiles from the second row from the floor and from the corner that will be clearly visible when entering the bathroom. How to do this can be found at www.youtube.com. First, the screed must be made, then the floor must be laid out, and then the walls must be lifted off the floor! well, it depends on which walls and so unambiguously from the floor
Natalia Titova
In the bathroom, you need to lay the tiles, where to start with the floor or walls? In fact, it doesn't matter, it all depends on the specific task and skill of the employee, I started this way and that, on the drum, clients did not complain, and not one thousand squares were glued already. I start from the floor. I put it strictly according to the level. Then it is easier to clad the walls. Only the seams on the floor should be rubbed last, when the walls are already tiled. Floor tiles are thicker and more durable than wall tiles, so there is no need to fear ...
Stanislav Yakovenko
A question about the renovation of the bathroom. what is better to first make the tiles on the wall or put the bathroom first? The tile is laid from the bottom of the bath - this is an ABC book of repair It depends on what kind of bathroom you have and where you put it. Tiles, of course. We have tiles from floor to ceiling. How to lay it if the bathtub is standing and there is a tile on the floor under the bathtub. How do you plan to lay? If you do it for yourself and conscientiously, then you first need to lay the tiles and only then install the bathtub.Some, in order to save money, in places where it is not visible (behind the bathroom), the tiles are not laid down (just like some soldiers clean their boots only in the front ...
Valery Khomenko
More correctly, first put tiles on the walls, then put the bathtub First, put the bathtub and make all the exits (electrician, water), and then lay the tiles. Place the bath first, then lay the tiles, leveling it. Of course the opposite is true. Technically it is possible this way and that. The difference is that in the case of the Tile-Bath, you will have the opportunity to change the bath without any problems in the future, and if the Bath-Tile, then the replacement of the bath will mean a "new" repair ...
Antonina Yudina
Be so kind as to tell me. That's when a bathroom renovation is done. First a new bathtub, and then the tiles on the wall. First, the tiles on the floor, then the tiles on the wall, which will have a bathtub, then they put the bathtub, and put the tiles on. Did the renovation this year. I put the bath in an expensive French one (and I am very happy.
What comes first a tile or a bath
then the tiles are laid. Exactly. Bath first, then tiles
Nadezhda Shapina
Is it possible to make a stretch ceiling first in the bathroom, and then a tile on the wall? Can I do this because then drill the guides in the tile to bypass almost 50 percent more. So, first, they make a stretch ceiling. You can, of course, the ceiling at the beginning, then the tiles, but it will be more expensive in the future, because in order to unfasten the canvas, you will have to dismantle the tiles. an option in bathroom renovation?
Alla Chichagova
How to take into account an acrylic bathtub? Tile on it, or it against the tile on the wall. First, the communications, then the tiles, and only then I installed the bath. and iron or cast iron even before the tiles. To eliminate the gap between the bathroom and the tile, there are a lot of special plastic strips on sale with a flexible silicone edge. Furniture makers use similar ones to hide the transition between the apron and the built-in countertop ...
Alina Lukicheva
Help me find how to glue bathroom tiles on the wall? and which is better: first put the bathroom and then glue or vice versa YouTube tiles in the bathroom Put the bath first! Now adapters are sold, they are attached to the edge and then the tiles are laid. Better first, the tiles. An article about how I glue tiles Tiles are little things in the work - the main work is preparation for this business
Tatiana Artemieva
Bathroom renovation Where to start? PUTTING TILES (walls and floors) or INSTALLING DOORS? Doors in a queue of ice. tile first. Polnostiu ustanavlivautsya dveri s korobkoy i moldingami potom dveri snimaut dlia udobstva i plitkoy podxodyat k moldingam! If you put the door from the beginning, then you can damage it first, the plumber, the electrician, the plaster, then you can also the door, depending on who and how will lay the tiles.
Zhanna Valneva
Put your bathroom tiles on the walls! Really, what would be exactly? Hands are turning from where they should. It was difficult = when there was no Internet and YouTube. It was necessary to learn from the Master and each profession was exclusive with its own secrets. Now, if you have straight arms, a bright head and YouTube, you can take on anything. Himself such…. Go ahead, everything is not so difficult, but do not forget the plumb line and the level. Well, try it. my dad has never laid tiles before. and in the bathroom I did everything myself perfectly.
Sergey Zotikov
How to lay tiles correctly? Eschelde memelde kulbe, the supervisor says it’s made by an a whole science, half a month will have to be spent to explain 50% to you The seam between the floor and the wall is closed with a plinth so there is nothing to be afraid of
Eduard Korekhov
How often do you spring-clean your apartment? General once a month. Although I clean it daily. You won't turn furniture around every day. And once a month I move and wipe the dust there. I go through the closets that I throw away. Never. I clean all the rooms one by one, so it's clean everywhere. Once I washed it after we hadn’t lived here for 3 years. For 8 hours I did not wash everything (including windows I don’t suffer any more garbage.
Irina Lopatkina
Where to start? Cover the bathtub with enamel and then lay the tiles in the bathtub or vice versa? They do not put tiles in the bath Tiles are placed in the bathroom Bath - a vessel for bathing, a bathroom - a room in an apartment Am I being clever? First the tiles, and then the enamel. First, a tile, and then a bath, or even better, a shower stall.
Zhanna Iglina
Should you start laying tiles in the bathroom from above or from below? Answer please! To be honest, the question seems strange to me: well, it's as if you asked: should you start building a house from the floor or from the roof? Generally from below. But when you go around the door, go up along one edge, put it over, and go down. For convenience, there is ceresite glue for masonry from top to bottom. If the tile is up to the middle of the wall, then on top
Lilia Glebovskaya
Where to start repairs in the bathroom First the tile, then the suspended ceiling Tile, then the ceiling, so that it is not visible, it will close the defects of trimming tiles at the junction with the ceiling. But first, conduct an electrician, if necessary, pipes, a water line, which must be hidden in the wall. And think, maybe the bathtub can be turned to another wall; can put a shower stall instead of a bathroom. Throw out the old bathtub first. replace pipes. to the kitchen. if necessary, prepare the walls for the tiles too. then the screed on the floor, then the floor tiles, installation of the bathtub.
What comes first? Bath or tile.
then wall tiles And only then the ceiling
Gleb Chugin
Tell me please! How to start a bathroom renovation? Buy everything you need. a bathtub for the beginning of a pvc pipe with fittings and valves and tiles on the floor. in a day, you can break everything, change the comb and put the tiles on the floor. put the heater on and after 6 hours you can put it on ... Do not rush to install a new one. the door has not yet been dismantled old coatings and devices. Agree, to put a new door and then invite the master to knock down the old tiles — nonsense! make sure first of your readiness for repair,
Kirill Neklyudov
Where do you start to lay tiles on the walls or floor? It’s clear that from the floor you are such bad-tempered people, don’t mock a person. My husband and I started from the floor, and then over the bathroom. From curb tiles (if you have one), which separates the upper and lower parts of the walls. Beat off the level and forward, and then up or down without a difference. The bottom row is trimmed, the floor tiles will cover the trim. The husband speaks from the walls, and he is special.
Valery Borovykh
Where do you first start to put ceramic tiles in the bathroom on the floor, or you can immediately on the walls Corner of the wall above the bathroom itself. Floor - before laying the lowest row of the wall. If you need to go there and there, then I would start from the floor On the walls
Georgy Kuryavin
How to start laying tiles over the bathroom? how to start from the floor and what other tricks are there? A stick-rail is started from the floor, it will be evenly screwed parallel to the floor on the level of two rows of clast patoma rest is a tile
Nadezhda Shapina
About tiles It all depends on the area of the room, it will not have time to dry and will float down. But in general, there are many factors that play. Your idea of the tile laying process is not entirely clear, but it should be in rows
Yuri Antsyferov
Where is the best place to start laying tiles in the bathroom? From the middle? There will be a decor bardyur You are not far from the truth Ideally, all the tiles lie from the middle, in order to observe symmetry This applies to the entire wall, the floor From the middle not always I often start from left to right from the most open wall, but in general depends largely on the location of furniture and plumbing If you go into the bathroom correctly, then the most visible corner is put with a whole lot of tiles, and in those corners ...
Oksana Kobeleva
How to start a bathroom renovation? Do you replace the door or start laying tiles? Enough to build nests, you are not a bird, of course, it is better from a tile First they put a bathroom, then a tile - a door at the end It happens in any way According to the rules: 1. The door 2. Then take measurements of the tiles 3. Lay out the tiles But in principle, you can lay the tiles on those walls that do not touch the door Replacing pipes, wiring, leveling walls, floors, laying tiles on the floor, installing doors, laying tiles on walls, grouting joints, installing a ceiling with lighting, installing plumbing fixtures.
Victoria Kuykova
Where to start laying tiles in the bathroom from the floor or from the walls (leveling is first of all) From the floor. Align the rail or profile at a height equal to, say, one tile, and start laying from it, and "trim at the bottom, in short, calculate the distance between the floor and the ceiling, to install the profile so that a whole tile fits in the top. You can start from the walls, or maybe from the floor, I usually from the floor, because then I put a bathtub on the finished floor (if it is planned) and then from the bathtub I start laying the walls, thereby closing the seam between the bathtub and the wall with whole uncut tiles.
Victoria Krysova
I don’t want to offend RUSSIAN GIRLS, but I’ll ask If a woman falls in love, she begins to cook and clean up and embroider with a cross, whatever, if only her man is happy next to her, and so much depends on upbringing Ukraine - Such a country where there is still not everything know what "Computer and Internet" is. It is these people who do not know this, they sit at home and cook potatoes Well, there are also more Ukrainian prostitutes!
Ivan Chernyshov
How long did you see doing the renovation? How long do you see doing repairs in the secondary housing, after the old tenants. It depends on the anatomical structure of the hands, or rather, where they grow from. Depends on the volume of repairs and the presence of interfering subjects - tenants. I finish the kitchen for the second month most of the time it took to find and deliver material and equipment, we do it ourselves. I will invite the carpenter only to the ceiling (lathing under plastic) and the door (moved ...
Alexander Richter
How to start laying tiles on the walls in a bathtub and in what order along the perimeter to lay rows or something else? A guide profile is drilled above the bathroom + the height of the tiles and minus the floor cm 1 cm. Well, you put the tiles on this profile already. Someone immediately starts putting on the vaanna, but the bathtubs are all semicircular and uneven, they can be trimmed with a grinder anyway ... Watch on YouTube. It's full of stuff. I personally glue the tiles
Alexandra Kapelina
I bought an apartment, why is it better to start renovating? First, sit down and think about what you want, if there is no chair, you can walk around the apartment, if nothing comes into your head, take care of the windows, see how the builders made them, you may have to redo the slopes, press on the window sill ... start with the kitchen - the main thing so that later, if the repair drags on, there was something and where to cook
What comes first, a bathtub or a tile on the wall
The question of the choice of the primary covering of the floor and walls with ceramic tiles has been observed for quite a long time.
The age-old question
The question of the choice of the primary covering of the floor and walls with ceramic tiles has been observed for quite a long time. Some masters argue that tiling should start from the walls, while others prove the need for the primary finish of the floor. Both the first and the second are right in some way, but at the same time, both are wrong in some points. Let's take a closer look at each opinion and draw a conclusion about the primary finish of the bathroom. Pay attention to where to start repairs in the apartment, tell experts from the site http://remoskop.ru/.
Walls first
Many builders are greatly supported by the opinion that it is the walls that need to be clad first. Before this, the wall must be leveled, preferably also in level. If there are irregularities when laying the tiles, they will "come out" and subsequently will be visible. After leveling, you can start laying. Here, too, opinions are divided - some say that the tiles must be started from the very bottom, leaving a small gap for the floor tiles. Others advise laying from the second row (starting from the floor). 
Still others are in favor of starting the tiles from the very center of the wall. Another part of the craftsmen starts laying from a bar or profile, which is fixed at the bottom of the wall along the level and from it they go higher to the ceiling. However, this option makes it necessary to install a skirting board, and this is an additional cost.
In support of this option to start laying tiles in the bathroom, its adherents point out the fact that during the laying of tiles, you can either stain the floor tiles with glue or cement mortar, or as a result of activity, some tool or the tile itself may fall on the floor, which will cause damage to ceramics. Another plus of starting from the walls is that after laying the tiles, you need to "rest", that is, you should not press on it and apply another mechanical effect. It follows that after laying the tiles on the walls, you can immediately start laying on the floor.
Floor first
The second part of the craftsmen and folk craftsmen assures us that it is advisable to lay tiles, it is advisable to start from the floor. Before this, the floor is leveled, after which the master proceeds to the installation itself. In defense of this method, its supporters point out that it is much easier to start laying the walls from the floor than from some other point on the wall. If the floor is level (and this is necessary), you only need to leave a gap of 3-5 mm from the floor and then start laying tiles on the walls. The gap can be made with the same crosses that you will have between the tiles. By setting the same gap between them, you will get perfectly straight lines. And to the fact that the floor can be smeared with glue or something else, supporters of the primacy of the floor suggest simply covering it with newspapers, and if you are afraid of heavy objects falling on the floor, cover it with cardboard, and then nothing will be scary for your floor.
However, this method of styling has a significant disadvantage. After the tiles have been laid, they need a so-called "rest" time, during which they must not be stepped on. And this time is significant - several days, if the glue layer is thick (in the case of an uneven floor) - up to a week. That is, a whole week of your time will be wasted.
What to do first: install the bathroom or lay the tiles on the wall
But if you are in no hurry, this will not be a big problem for you.
And still …
What should come first in the end - the walls or the floor. As it turned out above, you can start laying tiles both from the floor and from the walls. Each order has its pros and cons. It should be noted that not all craftsmen adhere to a particular tiling system - in one room they start laying from the floor, in another - from the walls. It all depends on the specific situation. In any case, convenience at work should be the determining factor of primacy. If it is convenient for you to start laying from the floor, then start from the floor, otherwise from the walls. But do not be afraid to experiment - perhaps having tried another technology, you will find that it is more convenient and simpler.
Output
Each master or folk craftsman is looking for something of his own - something that is convenient for him and seems more correct. It is impossible to find a concrete answer to the question of primacy, everyone sets it for himself, guided by the information received and his own experience. You can argue over this issue for a long time, claiming the correctness of the first method and the fallacy of the second (or vice versa), but the choice always remains before a single master who starts laying ceramic tiles in the bathroom.
Alina Lizunova
New bath. How to start laying tiles correctly? Lay out the entire main plane (all main planes) while leaving space for the bath itself, then put the bath and lay everything else First lay out the tiles. Floor, and then walls Start laying tiles on the walls at a height of 56-57 cm from the floor, drawing a line along the level along the perimeter of the bathroom. Then, slide in and install the bathtub. Good luck First you put the tiles on the walls, then you set up the bathroom, and then you glue the plastic hard curb. If you want to lay out the bardyur from the tiles, then you need to install the bathroom, transfer the actual markings to the wall, and then remove the bathroom ...
Olesya Ozerkova
Bathroom renovation Where to start? PUTTING TILES (walls and floors) or INSTALLING DOORS? Doors in a queue of ice. tile first. Start by replacing the fan and part of the pipes (as needed), then there is the treatment of the floor and walls - surface preparation, washing, nsecs. the floor falls into the level, then you will splash from it, there will be less fucking with the level of the walls. when the tiles ... If the door is standard, put the door, and approach it with tiles. Platbands are placed on one side, usually from the corridor, from the bathroom, the slopes are also tiled.
Daria Likhanina
Where do you first start to put ceramic tiles in the bathroom on the floor, or you can immediately on the walls Corner of the wall above the bathroom itself. Floor - before laying the lowest row of the wall. On the walls If you need to go there and there, then I would start from the floor
Yuri Maizerov
A question about the renovation of the bathroom. what is better to first make the tiles on the wall or put the bathroom first? The tile is laid from the bottom of the bath - this is an ABC book of repair An interesting question some do: first they put the bath, then the tile. tiles and only then install the bathtub Some, in order to save money, in places where it is not visible (behind the bathtub) tiles do not lay down (just like some soldiers clean their boots only ...
Maria Alexandrova
When renovating a bathroom, should the tiles be laid on the floor or on the walls first? First, slap the floor on the walls - it's complete nonsense if the door changes, then you should start with it, then fit the new floor to the threshold, and then lay the walls on the flat horizon of the floor, thereby blocking the trims ... On the floor. then a bath then tiles on the walls. Javike On the walls. On the walls Repair is similar to a natural disaster, isn't it So here: natural disasters (hail, snow, rain) come from top to bottom I recommend doing repairs in the same way. Ceiling, walls, floor PS You can, of course, paint the floor first, then paste over ...
Oleg Zdelev
And what in the bathroom should you first lay the tiles or change the door? First you need to align the walls in the bathroom, and then decide whether the tiles will fit the box or whether there will be a wooden frame with platbands on the side of the bathtub. Based on this, the issue is being resolved. The door, then the tiles! It's much easier! A false box is placed (this is if the casing is only on one side and the tile fits directly to the box), the tiles are brought in, and then after all the work, a door with a new box is placed
Kirill Budrin
Tell me, are the tiles in the bathroom put first on the floor or on the walls? And then every master says differently! Look until the light bulb where that one is more beautiful and put it second. I put it on the walls and then on the floor. This prevents the floor from getting dirty. First, all the walls are plastered along the lighthouses and an even screed is poured. The tiles are first glued to the walls from the second row, then the floor and the first row of wall tiles.
Lyubov Bedanova
What, put it under the toilet between it and the concrete floor? How to cover the gap between the bathroom and the wall If it is already installed on 4 large matches, then one roller is enough liquid nails and remove the matches After half an hour, tighten the screws, after 24 hours, go through the sealant in color On the concrete floor, you need to make a layer of leveling mixture, after that how well everything dries to lay the tiles. and only after that, attach the toilet bowl with special bolts (included with the toilet bowl) to the finished floor with tiles. You can walk along the edge with a sealant More ...
Vladimir Sumarokov
Are the bathroom tiles first laid on the floor or walls? Walls first. You don't want to damage the floor, if the other way around? It happens that the tool falls, the tiles are dropped, even if the hardboard is laid on top, it will still break through in some places. Read about the masonry methods. It doesn’t matter. Of course on the walls! The floor, then a bath is placed on the floor, and tiles are laid on the walls from the level of the bath. It is more correct to first finish the work with laying the floor, and then move on to the walls. But sometimes they do the opposite, for certain reasons.
Zhanna Likina
Where to start laying tiles in the bathroom from the floor or from the walls (leveling is first of all) From the floor. . literacy, even logically, we start laying tiles from the walls, pre-align, then half_ make a light screed for leveling, wait a day, put the tiles on the floor, the seams on the wall and rub on the floor after the tile rises (it depends ... First, the screed must be done, then Lay out the floor, and then raise the walls
Semyon Figurin
Renovation in the bathroom. What should be done first, the suspended ceiling and then the walls with tiles? Or how is it right? Thanks. First, I lay the floor, then I install the bathtub so that it does not "pull off with a tractor", and then I start the wall tiles from the bathtub, and the ceiling is already drilled onto the tiles, and do not forget about the sockets and pipes first. Walls first, then ceiling! Walls first, and then no matter how you want, you can have the floor, then the ceiling, but what if something falls on your floor? then the ceiling is better, then we pierced the floor so linoleum in the kitchen, dropped the shelf
Olga Dementieva
Bathroom renovation. What comes first - installing new doors or laying tiles? Doors first! After - the floor, then the tiles on the walls. And before the tiles, the ceiling must be made - then the tiles and at the end of the repair the doors are installed. Do not listen to anyone - the doors are adjusted to fit the tiles (add. Platbands. Porozhik) First, the tiles on the floor, then the doors, just do not take the universal hinges, take the right or left ones, depending on where the door opens. I removed the doors from the hinges and glue the tiles to myself, as I finished, I hung the door back
Timofey Levonyev
First, put the tiles on the floor and walls and put the doors? or do we put the doors and then put the tiles? I don’t know how who sells doors there, but think for yourself - put the tiles nicely, and then you will break it all down and put the doors? Put the box, and then hang the canvas when everything is ready. If the box is already covered with paint or varnish, seal it ... First, we do all the dirty work, and then we put the doors! No, you can, of course, put the box, and then the tiles, then hang the door and nail the platbands! But according to the rules, first the floor, and only then the doors
Evgeniya Podomareva
Professionals tell me, when renovating a bathroom, what is the first thing to put tiles on the floor or on the walls? I can give one ADVICE. Tile should put SPECIAL ONLY. If an amateur puts it, it's just money down the drain. 🙁 Specialists Lay the tiles Walls (except for the bottom row) then lay the FLOOR, then the last row (bottom) of the wall Only when laying the tiles ... I start with the Floor wall. I started with the floor that week.
Zhanna Valneva
Prompt first make a ceiling or put tiles in the toilet, bathroom Walls floor ceiling Tiles first. then the ceiling Connoisseurs damn it! plumbing, tiles on the walls without the bottom row then the floor then the bottom row adjoining the floor then the ceiling There are no rules - there is common sense and various options. The plasterboard ceiling does not interfere at all and is painted over to the tile, the stretch ceiling - on the tile, and so on. The ceiling is after the walls. And the floors are an independent matter.
Anna Kharkina
What, put it under the toilet between it and the concrete floor? How to cover the gap between the bathroom and the wall? Between the floor and the toilet bowl, lay a sheet of rubber with an opening for the passage of the direct outlet of the toilet bowl. It is also allowed to fasten the toilet bowl with screws to taffeta - a wooden board with a hole for a socket embedded in concrete Installation ...
Ilya Kotkin
Please tell me where to start laying tiles in the bathroom, from the floor or from the walls? Do you need tiles behind the bathroom? When to put the bath? First, put the tiles on the floor, this is the easiest way, then you install the bathtub, lay out the walls, there is no point in laying the tiles behind the bathroom; Walls, floor, bath. In the bathroom, it is better either to start from the floor but to make it ideally according to the level because the walls will go up from it as a beacon, but if the qualifications are not high, then a profile is set around the perimeter on aligned walls and tiles are laid from the second row,
Vitaly Negushin
Where do ceramic tiles first go - on the walls or on the floor? Expose the guides around the perimeter of the bath to the height of one tile and drive out the walls. then the floor. and then the last row of wall tiles On the walls, so as not to shit and break the tiles on the floor!
Which comes first: a tile or a bathtub? Determine the sequence
But there are also skilled workers who start off the floor, but it is problematic that you have to cover the floors so as not to guess! On the floor, If you are not going to make the flooring plinth, then first the walls, without reporting the lowest row of tiles. The walls begin to lay down from 2-3 rows, and then the floors, and last of all the bottom row on the wall
Artem Spekhin
We make repairs in the bathroom on our own. How should the tiles be laid: first on the floor, then on the walls, or vice versa? It was done by a professional. He first leveled the floor, then laid the tiles on it. And then on the walls. Of course, on the walls, first of all, and then on the floor. First, the floor is made, then the walls
Sergey Basargin
After laying the first (the horizon of the row of tiles on the walls of the bathroom goes the second, etc., or the entire wall up to the top; Lay the rows as you like. I first lay the floor, then the walls up to 2m, two walls each. Then the top from the goat. Installation of the tiles begins from 2 rows from the floor, from the center of the wall, from the ceiling is marked with a whole tile in the floor trimming after laying the floor tiles. The floor is also trimmed from the center to the wall. Classic version.
Today the main work is a box.
I would like to say that for me personally, the sequence of laying is important here. So that the seams that are - you need them to come together, so that they come together. I adjust the seam horizontally so that it goes from start to finish.
Well, there is such a moment, before I somehow did not pay special attention to it. At first, it is still better to lay two tiles on the left side. That is, this one and this one.
But before laying, adjust this tile. It is slightly sawn and wound under the already laid tiles.
That is, first you need to mark how it will lie and then put them together. If you lay the tiles separately, then adjusting them will be too problematic.
Therefore, I initially mark these tiles and lay them together to bring out this seam. After all, you can even look here so that it is clear what I am talking about. That is, attach a corner. It can be seen that he jumps a little. If we put these two tiles together at the corner first. That is, this large and this small piece and then we will try to cover it with a lid. Due to the flaws in the tile itself, this seam can be scattered here.
To avoid this, we will try to lay the big side first, and here these flaws are already compensated.
Well, when these two tiles were already laid, then I laid these sides. Well, and then I have already fully extended this whole row.
I will not lay out in parts. I'll stretch this row first. It will be much smoother. Then it will be much easier to adjust this side here. So I'll turn on the laser. Well, let's say, arbitrarily, I put it on the edge and already along the edge, that is, these tiles I initially cut off with a little extra.
I took this size, cut off a little with a margin, and then sawed through them. I twist and cut straight. Here they are all ready. That is, they have all been sawn through.
Well, and then I made a burr and now I will drive this row completely so that it can be pressed down with the rule. That is, fully expose, as you need to and only then just lay down the side part.
How to cut tiles correctly
As for the burr, what other point I wanted to draw attention to. Here, let's take this tile.
That is, it is clear that the tiles are not cut until the glaze itself. Just the rest is then passed through with sandpaper. And then there is such a moment that you need to pass the sandpaper in one direction. In no case should you make movements back and forth. Otherwise, with a crumb that is thrown off the sandpaper, you can simply hook the glaze with it.
Well, before working in general on burr, I still do such a test. I have a piece of tile. That is, I make a trial wash of any ordinary tile, because they are still different from each other, and the strength of the glaze is different from each other. I make a trial wash down on my Zasuitskaya tiles on both sides. That is, on the one hand, if you take any tile and look. For example, here the glaze and ceramics are joined right here at the very junction. And on the back of the tile, the glaze goes inward.
And so, in general, in most tiles. Therefore, on the one hand, we have a little more, on the other, a little less. And I will make this test drink so that I drive it more, more and more and determine at what point the glaze already starts to tear. In order to somehow make myself such a restriction in the future. What can not be cut further, then you need to work manually.
Well, and then, as I said, I will already work initially with ventilation. Here you need to make ventilation, so that the "ceiling" came and pulled the ceiling, installed lamps. Well, and then there will be work on the floor. That's all for now.
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When planning a bathroom renovation, you need to decide on the sequence of work. What comes first: laying the tiles or installing the bathtub? What is the most correct and rational algorithm? The answer to this question depends on several factors. The size of the room, the material of the bath, and the skill level of those who will carry out the finishing and plumbing work are also important. There are some other nuances as well.
Sequence options
Option 1: first the tiles, then the bath
The bath is brought into the lined bathroom. It only remains to install it. To fill the gap between the bathroom and the wall, a sealant is most often used. It protects against water ingress and holds the bowl.
If the bathroom is large and the bathtub is on legs, you don't need to put it against the wall at all.
Option 2: bath first, then tiles
The bath is brought in before the start of the wall decoration. Installed, fixed. Only after this does the laying of the tiles begin.
In fact, the bath is lined with ceramics or, in other words, built in. The tile goes onto the side of the bath, but does not rest against it, but "hangs" with a gap of several millimeters. The gap is subsequently filled with a sealant and / or moisture resistant (preferably epoxy). Further, the joint can be decorated with a special ceramic border or plastic corner.
Option 3: first measure on the bath, then laying the tiles
The bathtub is brought into the unfinished room and installed. Measurements are taken, markings are made for the tiles. Then the bath is taken out or pulled back. The tiles are not laid from the floor, but from the level of the bath rim, taking into account the required gap. When the finish is finished, the bathtub is placed under the already laid tiles.
Mistakes are unacceptable here: a little overshot with measurements - and the bath may not enter.
How to choose the right option?
Depending on the size of the room
If the bathtub fits exactly from wall to wall, it is risky to choose the first option. It may happen that after leveling the walls and laying the tiles, the distance will be reduced, and the bath simply will not fit. Therefore, if the bathroom is very small, you first need to install a bathtub and lay the tiles from it. It's safer this way.
If the bathroom, on the contrary, is large, you can choose the third option: bring in, install, measure, make markings, move and lay out the tiles not from the floor, but from the level of the bath rim.
Depending on the type of bath
You should read the instructions for the new bath. As a rule, manufacturers of acrylic bathtubs recommend first laying the tiles and only then installing the bathtub, sealing the joint with the wall with a sealant.
Manufacturers of steel bathtubs are not so categorical, however, they do not advise to rest the edge of the tile directly against the side. The steel bathtub is capable of "walking". As a consequence, the row of tiles lying on the side can be squeezed out. It is possible to tile the steel bathtub, but a gap must be left.
A cast-iron bath is most often “built in” into a tile, and not attached to an already tiled wall. Such baths are the most reliable, heavy and stable. And they serve, as a rule, for a very long time. Therefore, their integration does not entail any special risks.
There is another important aspect associated with a cast iron bath. If you cover the bathroom with tiles and only then bring in the bath, the finish may suffer. Cast iron is hard and heavy, so even a not very strong blow to the tile can lead to chips and cracks.
Unlike cast iron, an acrylic bathtub, especially an inexpensive one, may require replacement in just a few years. If it is built into a tile, you will have to break the structure. Before deciding on a sequence option, you need to decide - are you ready for an unplanned repair? If the bathtub is installed in a tiled bathroom, and the joint with the wall is filled only with sealant, there will be no particular difficulties with its replacement.
The size of the bathtub also matters. If it is very large (for example, corner models differ in such dimensions), tiling it will be, to put it mildly, inconvenient. How will this affect the quality of the styling? Will the new bathtub be damaged during the finishing work? Maybe such a bathtub should be installed only in a tiled bathroom?
Here, of course, a lot depends on the skill and experience of the tiler. If he is ready to work in such conditions and at the same time guarantees that the bath will do without damage, you can give preference to the version with "built-in".
If the bathtub is equipped with additional functions (hydromassage), it is fraught with "stitching" it into a tile. Should any breakdown happen, you will either have to put up with it, or destroy the structure.
- acrylic baths, especially inexpensive
- atypically large baths
- bathtubs with additional functions
- heavy cast iron baths
An exception is, of course, freestanding cast-iron bathtubs, including those on feet. They are never built in and are often not joined to the wall at all.
Depending on the budget
Laying tiles only from the side of the bathtub saves material costs. After all, the walls under the bathroom are not revetted.
If the renovation is being done in an apartment that will be rented out, it is still advisable to bring the bath into the already tiled bathroom. Here it is better to save money on the bath itself. Fortunately, changing it, with this installation option, will not be difficult.
Depending on whether the bathroom is being used during the renovation
If the owners live in an apartment where renovations are taking place, they want to shorten the period during which the bathrooms are not functioning as much as possible. In this situation, it will be convenient to bring and install the bathtub in a prepared, but not yet tiled bathroom, and then tile it. While the renovation is in progress, the bathroom can be used.
Depending on the opinion of the masters
If the conditions allow you to choose any of the options, you can trust the repairmen. Experts with extensive experience will determine the optimal sequence themselves and talk about all the possible pros and cons.
1. If there is a whole tile from the side of the bath, and not a scanty cut, the picture turns out to be more attractive. When planning to bring the bath into the lined bathroom, it is advisable to approximately determine, before laying the tiles, at what height the side will be.
2. Before coating the “seam” between the wall and the bathroom with silicone sealant, it is recommended to fill the bowl with water until it is drained. Drain the water only after the sealant has dried. It is argued that if an empty bathtub is “sealed”, after filling it can come off the wall. To protect the bathtub and walls from traces of sealant, it is necessary to stick mounting tape on them before work.
3. If you want to "drown" the bath in a long-laid tile, you can make a shallow slab in the tile. The width of the groove is the size of the side of the bath. The bath is pushed into the pipe, the joint is treated with a sealant and / or moisture-resistant grout.
The problem of a large gap between the bathroom and the wall is very common in new buildings. It is not at all clear what the developer is guided by, because the length of the bath has long been defined by clear standards and is 150, 160, 170 centimeters. Nevertheless, the space for the bath is often 5-7 centimeters wider than this standard.
Solution options
There are several solutions to this issue:
You can build up a wall at the junction of the bathtub and tile it, like the rest of the walls. It looks in my opinion "clumsy" and not aesthetically pleasing.
You can take a bathtub 10 centimeters longer (the next standard size) and "bump" into the walls with the edges of the product. A sufficiently high-quality solution, however, the thickness of the tiling should be taken into account so that the tiles fit aesthetically on the board and do not go too far. Mainly only applicable with wide, flat sides near the bathtub, or when the edges cut into the walls quite a bit.
A better solution would be to erect a plasterboard (or gypsum fiber) box in the width of the bath, from floor to ceiling. This option is good because you can close significant gaps between the wall and the bathroom. In addition, often the walls are far from 90 degrees to each other - the box from floor to ceiling allows you to hide the geometry defects of the room. Thanks to the box, the "wedge" on the tile will not be visible anywhere.
You can build up the missing centimeters with plasterboard along the entire wall. If this is done along the wall where communications are planned, then the problem with the hidden placement of pipes will be solved. The most correct, in my opinion, solution: 5-7 cm of space does not solve anything in terms of the total area, but there is an opportunity to get rid of boxes for pipes. After all, there is often no way to chisel the walls under the sewer pipes in order to hide them.
It is the option with the hiding of communications that we will consider in more detail.
Relevant or not?
To determine the relevance of plasterboard (gypsum fiber) cladding to eliminate an unpleasant gap, first of all, you need to try to mark the cladding. This will make it possible to judge the appropriateness in general, how much space the cladding will "steal" and whether it is possible to hide all communications.
During the marking, you need to painstakingly take into account all the little things: how the frame will stand (does it interfere with the pipes), the thickness of the glue and tiles. In the end, you need to decide whether the bathtub will get up before or after tiling. In general, most of the craftsmen adhere to the first option (first the bath is installed, then the tiles are laid), including me. In general, everything needs to be carefully measured and taken into account.
It is worth noting that it will not be possible to completely eliminate the boxes: at least, you will have to make a box where 110 mm goes. sewer pipe to the toilet. If the sewer riser is located outside the bathroom, then the box can be located only in the lower corner, of course, if the toilet is planned there and whether it is planned at all. If the riser is 110 mm. the pipe is located in the bathroom itself, then the vertical box cannot be avoided.
Thanks to the false wall and the fact that the sewer riser is outside the bathroom, we managed to get rid of the boxes. The only box had to be erected under the toilet, at the entry point 110 mm. sewer pipe. Sewer pipes of 50 mm are hidden behind the plasterboard cladding. and water pipes. And most importantly, the cladding is made in such a way that the bathtub fits perfectly without gaps. Please note: the bathtub was installed after the tiles were laid - this was the request of the customer. In general, it is more practical to lay the tile next to an already installed bath.
After the arguments about boxes, any reader will say: if boxes cannot be completely abandoned, then what is the point of revealing the entire wall at all, is it really just for the sake of a clear fit of the bathroom? Not only ... Horizontal water pipes, sewer pipes 50 mm. will be hidden behind a false wall. Without a false wall, you will have to make a horizontal box along the entire length of the pipes, and the box will prevent the installation of furniture, for example, a cabinet with a washbasin. And in the end, extra boxes are extra corners, and corners spoil the design of any room, even if they are perfect.
Communications
As described above, all the pipes are hidden behind the cladding, and only water sockets stick out for the necessary plumbing fixtures. There is plenty of space for the distribution of water supply, but for a sewer pipe of 50 mm. have to make room. Where, according to the idea, a profile for drywall should pass and the profile interferes with the sewer pipe - the profile can be cut. That is, the pipe can run close to the drywall. In more severe cases, when there is not enough space, you can trim the drywall itself where it interferes with the pipe. Ultimately, the main thing is that the pipes do not interfere with the laying of the tiles.
Subsequently, when the wall is sewn up, it is important not to forget the places where the pipes are too close to the cladding and not accidentally pierce them with self-tapping screws. I strongly recommend marking the places where such problems are possible.
False wall close to the bathtub
When facing with drywall, questions may arise: is one layer of drywall enough? How often should a profile be set? My answers are simple: one layer of drywall 12.5 mm. quite enough - tiling will significantly strengthen the structure, in addition, mortgages are made for heavy objects (see below). As for the distance between the profiles, 60 cm is more than enough.
Also, the question may arise: is it necessary to fill the empty space under the cladding with insulation? Here you need to weigh the relevance - if sound insulation from neighbors is needed, then the insulation will give only a small effect. It should be understood that it is worth insulating with foam or extruded polystyrene foam, mineral wool does not tolerate high humidity well.
For the canopy of the water heater and heavy furniture (if any), plywood mortgages should be provided. For a storage water heater of 50-100 liters, at least two layers of 18 mm plywood are needed. For a cabinet with a mirror, one layer of 10 mm is enough. for eyes.
Plywood inserts are attached to the frame of the false wall. When screwing the sheets of gypsum board, thin zigzags of polyurethane foam should be applied to the mortgages and, having attached the sheet, screw it not too often.
We examined the main points of design and installation of a false wall made of gypsum plasterboard to eliminate the gap to the bath and hidden laying of communications. In general, the topic can be painted over several pages, because it includes piping, frame installation, and so on, deserving detailed attention. In subsequent publications, we will fill this gap.
