How to distinguish a flowering apple tree from a pear. When is it better to buy seedlings, how to distinguish wild when buying
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How to rejuvenate an old apple tree?
A young garden, including apple trees, is pleasing to the eye, warms the soul, but years pass, and our apple trees grow old. An old apple tree will no longer give its former harvest, its branches are more fragile, bunches of tops are often visible - that is, vertical shoots growing, which only draw off nutrients, but do not produce fruit, and the tree slowly dies. A lot of gardeners simply uproot an old apple tree and plant new varieties of seedlings on the site, forgetting about such a miracle, for example, as a real Antonovka, which it is almost impossible to get now, exactly the fragrant one that was baked in the oven, which lay there all winter long.
Today we will try to explain in as much detail as possible how to rejuvenate an apple tree of old age, describe the methods of rejuvenation, tell you when and how to do it correctly. And then, it is quite possible that the apple tree will revive again and will delight you with harvests of your favorite apples for many years to come.
The main actions that will be aimed at rejuvenating the old apple tree are the actions associated with pruning. It is important to stock up on tools and patience, because in one season it will be not only physically difficult for a fairly aged apple tree to return to its former youth, but sometimes even dangerous for the tree itself. Instead of rejuvenating the apple tree, you will spend a lot of strength and energy and simply "cut" the tree, it will most likely simply die. By the way, do you really need to rejuvenate your apple tree right now, maybe it's not time yet?
Signs indicating that you need to start rejuvenating the apple tree
Few people know that an apple tree can grow without rejuvenation for up to three decades. Of course, this does not mean that there is no need to carry out sanitary pruning, it is necessary and should be annual and should be reduced primarily to the removal of dry shoots, broken, frozen and those that grow deeper into the crown, which will certainly lead to its thickening. But the aging of the apple tree manifests itself in different signs. For example, a clear sign of aging is the exposure of boughs of skeletal-forming branches, which, in turn, simply lose fruiting shoots, and there is an outcrop, from the beginning of the crown to its periphery, naturally, and the yield also drops significantly.
One of the signs of aging is small growth, it becomes minimal or the growth of the apple tree stops altogether. Fouling shoots and fruits die en masse, drying up and dying off. Even during this period, when it is already clear to anyone that the tree urgently needs to be rejuvenated, it can still bear fruit, but the taste of these fruits is very different from that which was before.
Among other things, pay attention to the very top of your old apple tree: the tree needs rejuvenation if the top is almost completely dry.
How would you like to see your apple tree?
Yes, this is exactly the question every gardener should ask himself before taking up the cutting tool. What in the end would you like to see what branches and skeletal branches of the apple tree you plan to leave; what, more precisely - what, vertically growing shoot can you replace the already dry top? It seems that it is difficult, but this is just a banal work plan, and it needs to be kept both in the head and on paper. Just a couple of strokes, even for someone who is difficult to draw, will help to cut down exactly the desired branch, because you cannot return an incorrectly sawn one.
We will help you a little. So, remember that, ideally, the apple tree should always have a fairly strong central conductor, it is a clear leader, bearing the entire load - both from the vegetative mass itself, and the load from the harvest. This leader should grow as vertically as possible, preferably located in the very center of the apple tree, and the shoots should diverge from it radially, and the larger the angles of these same shoots with the central conductor, the better. And remember one more thing, when rejuvenating an old apple tree, try to ensure that the upper shoots are at least a little, but shorter than those located below (the effect of the Christmas tree), then the upper tier will not shade the lower tier so much, and if you manage to arrange the branches radially displaced, that is, not under each other, but in free spaces between the branches, it will be just fine.
To make a younger and outwardly beautiful apple tree from an old apple tree, it will take not one or two, but three whole years. This is ideal for the apple tree, as it will receive moderate damage and be able to recover from pruning.
When to start pruning an apple tree?
Of course, during the dormant period of the apple tree, it may be late autumn, when leaf fall is over, but there will not be severe frosts yet, or it may be a pre-spring time, for example, the end of February. The main thing is that outside the window there is no more than ten degrees of frost, and that the apple tree is not in a state of vegetation.
It is highly desirable to complete pruning in the spring before the onset of the period when the buds swell, their swelling indicates that the root system of the apple tree is already included in the work and nutrients begin to flow from the roots up into the crown, pruning during this period will entail a loss of nutrient juice and he, like blood from a wound on the human body, will flow out, weakening or even killing the plant.
Remember that in the process of rejuvenation, the apple tree will need feeding and watering, so always loosen the near-stem zone, remove weeds, apply complex mineral fertilizer in spring, water the plant more often, preventing the soil from drying out, and in the fall add potassium and phosphorus fertilizing and carry out a moisture recharge watering.
Tools needed for trimming
There must be at least two hacksaws in stock, take one with small teeth, and the other - large, do the same with pruners in terms of their number - take two, sharper and more expensive, otherwise on the first or second knot the pruner will trite, which is already repeatedly tested in practice. The price of a good pruner now starts at 3000 rubles, and if this is not a fake, then this is definitely a good pruner.
Get yourself gloves, you can use simple gardening gloves, but better with leather inserts on the palms, so the risk of injuring your hands on gnarled branches will be minimized. And of course, if your trees are real giants, then you will have to buy a ladder or a stepladder and splurge on a safety belt - believe me, there are moments when you cross yourself a hundred times and thank God for putting it (belt) on and tying it to a branch.
In the event that there are two, three or more old apple trees on the site, it is advisable to acquire either smart and dexterous, well-trained assistants, or an electric pruner - remember this is a dangerous thing, it can cut off a finger or severely damage your hand, but working with it you absolutely do not feel fatigue and if you do not get distracted, but do everything in stages and systematically, choosing a sunny day without snow and rain, then no trouble should happen. Often such pruners are fixed on long poles, from them (from the pruners) there are wires and there is something like a control panel, and you can cut off shoots right from the ground.
Important! Never skimp on tools, if you decide to start gardening, then save money for quality saws, hacksaws, pruning shears, garden knives, sturdy ladders, ladders and good gloves. It is when everything is at hand that gardening is easier and more interesting. Even a simple shovel can bend, delivering a lot of negative emotions, or maybe bought 4-5 times more expensive, can serve for decades, literally passing from father to son. Among other things, a low-quality garden tool becomes dull extremely quickly and without constant exhausting sharpening and editing will destroy trees. With the help of such a tool, only tousled cuts can be made, which, even when subsequently isolated with garden paint or garden varnish, will heal for a long period, which can negatively affect the general condition of the tree, because through poorly healing cuts, like through a half-open gate, it can freely get into tree any infection.
In addition, do not forget, moving from tree to tree, wash the working parts of the tools with 12% bleach or wipe them with a cloth soaked in alcohol, so the risk of transmission of infection from a sick tree to a healthy one will be either completely excluded or minimized.
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Saplings: questions and answers
Whatever your garden, you have to buy seedlings almost every year - you need to change old trees and shrubs, the desire to have a new culture in the garden, the plants have died. There can be many reasons, and you need to know how and where to buy seedlings, to correctly determine the place in the garden where the new settler will move from the nursery. We will try to answer these and some other questions.
How to distinguish a varietal seedling from a wild game?
Almost all varietal seedlings are grafted. On their root collar there is a bend on which there is a stump or a round wound from the cut rootstock. The straight stem and powerful root stem indicate that this is a seedling and, possibly, taken from the forest. If a seedling grows from a piece of thick horizontal root is a root sucker, it is likely that it was taken from a grafted tree, that is, it will not repeat its properties.
Grafting and grafting of fruit trees One of the important agricultural techniques in horticulture is grafting and re-grafting of fruit trees. Preparation of the cutting for budding: 1 - young shoot (dashes show the cutting points of the cutting); 2 - a stalk prepared for budding. The exact timing of budding cannot be established, since the maturation of wild boar and cuttings depends on local climatic conditions. The approximate time for budding in the northwestern regions is at the end of July and the first half of August. Cut-off details and insert of the shield during budding: 1 - knife movement line; 2 - flap cutting line; 3 - cutting the flap; 4 - T-shaped cut and flap insert. In case of unsuccessful budding, it can be repeated if the bark on the rootstock is still separating. After that, the knife is brought 0.5 cm above the transverse incision and with a smooth movement, gradually deepening the knife, bring it to the kidney, and then gradually bring the knife to the surface at a distance of 1-1.5 cm from the eye and cut off the shield from above. Sometimes the shields are removed in the opposite direction from the butt to the top. The total length of the flap is sufficient 2.5-3 cm. 1- stalk prepared for inoculation; 2- stalk inserted behind the bark; 3- rootstock with a grafted shank; 4- grafting with two cuttings. Bark grafting with saddle: 1- cuttings (side and front view); 2- stalk inserted behind the rootstock bark; 3- vaccination site after strapping. In addition to grafts with a full cut of the top of the stock, there is a lateral grafting behind the bark leaving a thorn, in which at a certain distance from the ground a wood undercut is made on the stock in the form of a saddle or a shaped incision on its bark, as in budding. Grafting with a cuttings for the bark leaving a thorn: 1- with undercut wood; 2- in a T-shaped incision in the bark with a handle with one bud. For the separated part of the bark, a stalk with a saddle or with a regular oblique cut is inserted. This grafting can be done with one-bud cuttings or with many. Grafting for the bark of overgrown wild animals. If the grafted trees have already reached fruiting, then the grafting should be done not in one year, but in two or three, so as not to sharply disrupt the ratio of the crown of the tree to the root system. The inoculation usually begins from the top and ends with the lower branches. Scheme of grafting the crown of a fruit-bearing tree by cuttings for the bark, leaving unvaccinated branches. Then, before the start of sap flow from the tree, you need to cut off 2-3 tall annual shoots and bury them in the ground to keep them dormant. 1- damaged tree trunk; 2- cooked stalk. Grafting with a bridge with nailing the cuttings. Grafting behind the bark with a bridge of roots. With the beginning of sap flow above and below the wound, longitudinal cuts up to 4 cm are made on the healthy bark, and the bark is separated from the wood using the bone of the budding knife. After that, they take the harvested shoots, remove the buds on them and make oblique cuts at both ends in the same way as when grafting for the bark. The length of the cutting should be slightly greater than the distance between the ends of the longitudinal cuts on the tree trunk. Grafting from the stump of a damaged tree. Copulation is of great importance in winter grafting, in which not only wilds of special sowing can be used, but also parts of the roots from the uprooted tree, as well as trimming the roots and roots of old wilds. Improved copulation with tongues. Copulation technique. With a simple copulation on a rootstock and a graft (scion) having the same thickness, oblique cuts of the same length (up to 3 cm) are made. Then the cutting and stock are cut to each other. Grafting into a simple stock with a saddle. On the oblique cut of the cutting, stepping back 1/3 from the edge of the sharp end, make a split with a knife a little further than the middle of the slanting cut and exactly the same split, observing the same order on the rootstock. After that, the stalk is connected to the stock so that the tongue of one of them goes into the cleft of the other. 1 -with tongues; 2nd saddle and tongues. Copulation in the butt with a ledge When copulating thin rootstocks, almost the same in thickness with cuttings, the cambial layers always coincide. With the same grafting of thicker rootstocks, it is necessary to take into account the thickness of the bark in the wild, so that there is no rupture in the cambial layers. 1 - leaving the sewn in a simple butt; 2nd leaving a spike in the butt with a notch at the bottom. Long lateral roots are shortened. For grafting, a sufficient length of the root will be 10-12 cm, so the lower part of the root is removed. If the root of the tap structure is well overgrown with lateral roots, then the lower part of the root can also be used for grafting. 1-prepared roots; 2- cuttings; 3 - grafted root; 4 - site of inoculation after strapping. For the first three weeks, boxes with grafted plants are kept in a room with a temperature of 10-12 °. During this time, the stalk grows together with the stock. In the future, the temperature is lowered to 0 +3 and the plants are kept in this position until the start of planting in the nursery. 1- prepared cutting; 2- making a cut on the stock; 3- inserted stalk. Grafting in the zip At high elevations from the ground, you can use a flower pot or box filled with earth. Summer grafting with a cuttings taken directly from the tree. The survival rate of grafted branches is related to the humidity of the air in early spring, and therefore, using plastic wrap to cover them, you can get better results of grafting. The second stalk is grafted at the same height on the opposite side of the rootstock and, at the same time as the first, is tied and covered with hard putty or plasticine. The upper cuts of the cuttings are also covered over. Grafting for the bark, for example, is possible only with the beginning of sap flow, and grafting into the split can be performed long before that, when there is still no such urgent work, which usually begins with complete thawing of the soil. Cuttings grafted into the cleft before the onset of sap flow develop well in the summer. 1- prepared cuttings; 2- split into rootstock; 3- rootstock with inserted cuttings. Semi-cleavage grafting. They start grafting into the split from the second half of March and the stone fruit breeds are grafted first, and the seed breeds after two weeks. Etc
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In old gardens a lot is growing today wild apple trees, although outwardly they look like ordinary spreading apple trees. But only when it comes to fruiting, it turns out to be sour. Such a tree can come from the previous owners of the garden. And if the garden passed from hand to hand, then for sure most apple trees without strict control could not help but turn imperceptibly into wilds, as few people know how to keep fruit trees "in check". This is also observed in schoolyards, in gardens near railway stations and other institutions - where the trees did not have a permanent owner. How to distinguish a varietal tree from a wild? After all, it often happens that varietal apple tree without proper pruning, it begins to give numerous sour little things ...
However, it can cut for fruit enlargement (reduce the number of fruit branches so that the remaining fruit in a limited amount gets more nutrition, then they improve not only size, but also taste). It's useless to work with the wild, it must be immediately cut down for firewood.
Fork tree
The first sign, which indicates that in front of us is probably a wild no trunk... Instead, from below, 2 or 3 trunks immediately come from the ground (sometimes a bunch of 4-5 trunks), like on the picture:
A varietal tree could not be formed in this way, it must have a well-defined stem. Since it is not there, it means that it has dried up, it was cut down, and instead of it, undergrowth shoots went below the grafting site. Among the undergrowth shoots usually 2-3 are in the lead, they turn into trees so quickly that the owners often do not notice the "substitution".
There is a trace of the old tree
The second correct pointer to the wild - this is surviving stump: if the current apple tree trunk clearly comes from under this stump, which means that a coppice shoot sprouted below the grafting site. On the picture: in the middle is old tree stump
And he for sure and was a varietal tree, and when it died and was cut down, two overgrown shoots started from below. (The same picture is observed when the owners did not keep track and allowed overgrowth shoots below the grafting site, considering them to be ordinary strong branches - and they displaced the varietal part).
On the picture: such a saw cut below indicates that there is a wild one in front of us:
Wildlife in one barrel
It often happens that the apple tree grows into one trunk, in appearance - flawlessly located skeletal branches and a stem. And all the same it is wild: just one of several coppice shoots was left and apple pruning made a standard tree out of it. To quickly identify the quality of its fruits, you need a fairly strong apple pruning, literally to single apples, so that they show themselves in all their glory.
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15 comments to "Old apple tree: how to recognize that it is wild"
Irina, do you mean that the stock was grown from Antonovka seeds and then gave rise to shoots? But then he cannot be a pure Antonovka. Although it may resemble it, since when sowing seeds there is a wide range of varietal characteristics. Quite often, an apple or pear tree grows out of the wild from below, which can still be used for food with a stretch, and especially for juices and drying.
In general, varietal apple trees were best preserved in old orchards on chernozems, where about 3-4 trees one retained the variety, and in our suburbs, on acidic soils, the varietal top breaks down more easily, so old abandoned apple trees are usually all wild.
I subscribe to the question. We cut down an old apple tree, and a good root shoot has grown nearby. Not deleted yet. I am waiting for Paul's opinion on this matter.
Theoretically, of course, such a young tree could be grafted. But unwittingly, objections immediately arise:
- we will be dealing with a single stock, which means that statistics (rule 80 to 20) are strongly not in our favor;
- you can make a mistake with the incompatibility of the new variety;
- the reasons due to which the old scion tree weakened and dried have not been eliminated, besides, root secretions have really accumulated in the ground, which means that it is pathetic to transplant and root the shoots first to a new place, and then graft, this year will be lost ...It turns out that it is incomparably easier and more accurate to buy a ready-made seedling in the nursery (if an apple tree, then to another place, and here - one of the stone fruits, or even better - raspberries).
Thanks for the answer! The stock tree died of old age. True, it was still bearing fruit well, but the core was already all rotten and it strongly threatened the roof of the house. I had to cut it down. The stock and the planned scion, in theory, should be compatible, because we want to plant a variety that we already have, but also an old apple tree, bought with the deceased one (more precisely, a branch grafted from an old apple tree). We just want to keep the variety. Well, the statistics are not in our favor - we will survive that! We have a grafted branch of this variety - you can still inoculate as much as you like. We are not afraid of losing a year - there is simply no place for another. So we think: to open up or not.
Tatyana, then transplant the coppice shoot right now with a large lump, you can cut it down with an ax directly from the large (20-30cm) part of the thick root on which it appeared. The main thing is to keep a larger lobe of small roots with it. (Yes, chopping, as usual, it is better to first dig out and see the general condition of the roots.) Transplant somewhere to a fresh place, without fertilizers and without a planting hole, cut off the ends of the branches a little - and then water to take root. Then, by the spring, when the grafting can be done by the cuttings, it will already be a well-rooted tree.
Probably best of all, if now the coppice shoot grows in the form of a forked slingshot, then both of them can be grafted and then choose the best one. And if the coppice shoot grows in the form of a stem and lateral branches, then in this case, branches can also be grafted, but they do not have an advantage in growth; it is still advisable not to be limited to one grafting and to graft all the available branches that are suitable in thickness: if then it turns out that only one graft on the side branch has taken root, then you will have to cut everything except it on the tree, then it will begin to straighten itself and turn into a trunk.
Pavel, is there a possibility that it could be a rooted Antonovka or Babushkino? Or are all living apple trees exactly grafted? My old apple trees have sprouts ... Doesn't it make a new Antonovka?)
Pavel, is it possible to graft an apple tree growth that has grown a meter from a sawn trunk? Will such a tree develop well if grafted successfully, or will the accumulated root secretions oppress it?
With the onset of spring, all summer residents start planting. Gardeners do not get off with vegetable beds alone. At the summer cottage, numerous planted apple seedlings of different varieties appear.
Experienced summer residents, who often plant fruitful trees, already know all the rules for choosing. Beginners in this business are mistaken and plant the wrongly chosen plant, observing the peculiarities of planting the variety they need. As a result, the tree dies without having time to take root.
The most widespread apple variety in Russia is Antonovka. It is unpretentious in cultivation, and its fruits are juicy and tasty. Due to the popularity of the presented variety, many dishonest sellers sell seedlings of other varieties to improve their financial condition, passing them off as Antonovka. Because of this fraud, gardeners are left without an apple tree and financial resources. In order to protect gardeners from this kind of deception, it is necessary to find out how to identify real apple seedlings of the Antonovka variety.
Rules for the selection of apple-tree seedlings "Antonovka"
Often, apple seedlings have labels indicating the variety. You should not pay attention to them, since there are a lot of erroneous designations. When buying a plant, pay attention to their appearance. An apple tree of the Antonovka variety is selected according to the following criteria:
Seedlings for planting should be purchased as annuals. Their height should not exceed 80 cm. The stem at this height should not be thicker than a pencil. If you find plants that are taller and larger, they should not be purchased in case of planting an apple tree in a harsh climate, since they were brought from the southern regions and they may not take root in you.
An apple-tree sapling of the Antonovka variety has a weakly expressed cranking.
Take a closer look at the top leaves. They should be unfolded - this indicates the end of the growth process. Also, leaves that are not susceptible to sloughing have a round or oval shape with rather large denticles. The surface of the leaves has a corresponding roughness. Their color is dark green and the stalk is short.
The shoots of the one-year-old "Antonovka" are lignified with rare white lenticels.
At the top of the shoot, the leaves are with larger plates and are located compactly.
As for the bark, here the shoots are weakly shiny and have a dark brown color. Lentils are rare and oval.
According to the listed features, you can always determine the variety of the presented seedling. The correctness of the choice can be checked already at the flowering stage. The presented apple variety has large and saucer-shaped flowers of white color with a slight tint of pink. The petals of the flowers are oblong in shape, which fit tightly to each other.
How to choose a healthy seedling?
Choosing the right apple variety is not the only purchase criterion. If you do not pay attention to the condition of the seedling, you can purchase an unhealthy plant that will not take root later. Therefore, the condition of the plant as a whole should be considered, paying attention to the following features:
the roots and stems play a special role. There shouldn't be any damage here;
the roots are somewhat damp, not rotten (check them by pulling a little on the processes: if a piece is easily torn off, then the roots are rotten);
Saplings Antonovka
root length - at least 30 cm. Choose seedlings with a large number of branches - so it will quickly take root;
the root cut is white, otherwise you risk acquiring a seedling with rotten roots;
plant trunk without wounds and damage;
check the stem of the seedling under the bark - slightly pick it up with your fingernail - it should be bright green.
The right choice will save you from unnecessary financial costs and will delight you with delicious and ripe fruits.
Purchase of an apple-tree sapling of the Antonovka variety
The choice of where to buy a seedling sometimes plays a key role. Preference should be given to trusted sellers, therefore, as the gardeners themselves assure, make a purchase in nurseries. Moreover, choose nurseries, time-tested, the best if they have existed since Soviet times, where scientific research and breeding of numerous varieties of fruit trees were carried out. There are practically no mistakes here, so you can trust their suggestions (but it's worth checking).
You can also buy seedlings from trusted private owners. They often breed in their backyards, so the quality of the plant can be better here. Only in this case should you independently check the appearance and conformity of the varieties.
The average cost of an annual Antonovka apple-tree seedling varies from 350 to 550 rubles, depending on the region. It is not advisable to purchase such plants over the Internet. Here you run the risk of purchasing a different variety, and during transportation, the plant can damage the roots and trunk.
Saplings Antonovka
Stories from eyewitnesses, when apple-trees from seeds (that is, unvaccinated) begin to give tasty fruits
I watched and tasted apples by an apple tree growing by the road leading to a neighboring village. And the most interesting thing is that on one tree, branched into two, the fruits were of different sizes: on one large, on the other smaller. The apples were delicious. There were a lot of apple trees growing along the road, apparently, travelers, returning home from work or from trips, threw out stubs, - after all, stomping with their feet for 10 km. Children ran to feast on fruits from the nearby villages.
Andrey Shchukin
A friend of mine has an apple tree growing out from under the fence. Obviously from a seed. Fruit
large, sweet, unlike any nearby cultivar. The specialist said that this is a new variety.
I also met an apple tree growing with four trunks in an open field. The apples are different on each trunk. Sour to sweet. And in different sizes. Probably from one apple (stub?).
Ekaterina Ilyina
Familiar people had a wild apple tree with sour small fruits on the territory of their estate. When they found her, they began to talk to her and, I will not say for sure, the next year or later, the apple tree produced medium-sized sweet apples. So, there is a living example.
Kiyar Tkachuk
I also grew apple trees from seeds.
About 12 years ago, a Siberian told a story on the Internet.
His grandmother lived in a village in a house with a vegetable garden. And then, among the beds, an apple tree grew, apparently from a stub. After a few years, she began to bear fruit, but the apples were small and sour. Before her death, the grandmother asked her grandson to come to her, showed him the whole farm and told him about this game. But she asked not to cut it down, but to leave it as a memory of her. A few months later, my grandmother was gone. The grandson came to her house only in the summer to rest. I didn’t do anything there myself, I just collected these small sour apples for compote in autumn. And so, when the apple tree was about 25 years old, he arrived in the fall as always to pick wild apples and was shocked. Large red apples hung from the apple tree. He began to ask the neighbors what had happened, but no one knew. And only one old man said that once upon a time he had heard from his grandfather that a wildflower grows from a seed, but the period of its growing up is about 20-25 years, and then it begins to give birth to beautiful apples. But since our gardeners do not want to wait so long, they plant them, and she gives a harvest much earlier, because she knows that she will live no more than 25-30 years. And unvaccinated "wilds" live more than 200 years.
Today's reality.
Living in my estate since 2004, I really wanted to plant everything faster in order to decorate my native land with a forest. I especially tried to plant fruit trees. For some reason, the purchased grafted trees did not take root in any way, then new shoots came from the root, and the graft dried up, and the hares also kindly ate the purchased seedlings. Having spat on such a situation in life, he began to go to the manor's gardens and abandoned villages and dug up various wild apple trees and other seedlings, began to plant them on his site. Fortunately, there was enough space (5 hectares). I planted small seedlings of wild game from 20 to 50 cm.
When I found my homeland in 2003, it was with joy that I planted large seedlings for quick development, development of my homeland into paradise.
Bottom line: all large seedlings came from the roots. So, for 4 or 5 years
apple trees, my wilds gave such sour apples that it cramped my cheekbones. I'm pretty tired of going to the manor's orchards for other people's apples, two years ago I started planting my own wild apple trees, self-seeding. More than half of the branches out of 100 grafted have taken root. During vaccinations, with reproach, talking to the planted apple-trees wild, they say, where are the sweet apples. Your sour hares don't even eat. And now it's 2014 ... My planted wild apple trees gave sweet apples. And how fragrant. It took only 10 years, not 25, as in the description at the beginning. Maybe a special year. Because, as even in the nearest village, across the river, the wild apple trees were also with sweet fruits. Although in the village 6 km away the year for apples turned out to be a poor harvest ... In general, it is noticed that the space in which you live is sensitive to your thoughts ... Especially, bees ... But this is a completely different story ...
Photo album of my apple trees: http://vk.com/album-69666880_201643822
Family estate Bear Rai, Kiyar Tkachuk.
German Dolbilov
Friends, dear!
Where are you from, from the moon, or what? What is the problem and achievement of planting an apple seed or throwing it into the ground? Of course, the apple tree will grow. She will not go anywhere, if there is water and sun. The whole question, and it is very serious, what kind of apple fruits will be on it.
In principle, I am not considering esotericism here now (I can also talk about it for a long time). A tree will grow, very likely large and healthy, but whether there will be edible apples on it is a very big question!
Personal experience.
I worked for four years (in the eighties, when they did not know genetic engineering) at a selection station, which did not have a commodity garden, only a selection (selective) one. The work (annually) consisted of germination and planting of 5,000 - 7,000 apple seedlings in the field. Each seedling was described and numbered, occupying more than 400 hectares of land.
As a result, 10 years after planting, 5-10 trees (out of thousands) were selected and they were further worked on selection (selection), the rest was uprooted and the next ones were planted. And so every year !!! Do you think all these people had nothing else to do?
Of all planted seedlings, only a fraction of one percent were better than their parents, a few percent were equal to their parents, the remaining 90-95% were significantly worse than their parents! This is a well-documented fact.
Friends! After reading Zhelezov (his health and many years), I also now plant a garden of seeds, but ... But! Only 15-20% as experimental. The rest is in order to have edible fruits according to the classical grafting technology.
I urge everyone. Don't waste your time! Grow your garden by grafting, at least 80%, and only then you will experiment. How sorry I am for you, when after 10 years of labor you will receive, with a very high probability, inedible fruits.
Health and good luck to all.
Kiyar Tkachuk replied to German Dolbilov
Herman, you advise nonsense, dear. Check out my experience (link above). I planted over 400 apple seedlings with seeds in 2004. In the past, 2014, more than 50 apple trees bore sweet fruit. And this is without vaccinations and other nonsense.
Trees - they are alive ... very alive ... Now, 11 years later, I clearly understand this. They react to a person's thoughts.
I looked at the "extra" seedling, planted out of place, and it dried up after a while. I was glad of the other - it is growing rapidly.
Your work was mechanical, without investing the energy of communication and the purpose of apple trees.
And the hares ate grafted apple trees (80 pcs.), Which is incredibly happy.
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You can, of course, buy a grafted seedling. What do we get in this case? A new "plant", consisting of two different plants, each of which is trying to draw power over itself and give exactly its own offspring, and not feed the "neighbor". That, by the way, is why the scion often falls off - it simply drops off, and sometimes the other way around, the rootstock dries up. That is why grafted trees have more wild animals in their offspring. It's just that the wild is genetically stronger (this is what the seedling is grafted onto, that is, the stock). And he tries to give his own genes to the offspring, crushing the cultured pampered "neighbor" from above. Plus the stress of transplanting from the nursery with a decrease in root mass. The plant grew and grew for itself, the roots adjusted to the energy of the earth and nutrients, water exactly in the place where it grew. The plant also sprouted branches depending on the distribution of heat, light and winds. And then his - twitch, tyrk ... And the plant, sacrificing its frost resistance, supply of nutrients and health, is forced to lose years, adapting to a new place. And if it is also grafted ... Then it is an eternal struggle for the life of two different plants. That is why modern grafted fruit trees have a very short lifespan, 15-19 years, then it fades away. The forces went to fight.
In contrast, a tree that has grown from a seed in a permanent place, not grafted actively bears fruit for 300 years or more! And, by the way, self-rooted plants are less susceptible to frost and disease, they are strong.
There is something to think about. :)
Here I will also add that the selection of "top" and "root" goes in completely different directions (the stock - so that it is more severe, more stable, frost-resistant and no matter what the fruits; the scion - stability and frost resistance are not important, the main thing is to get fruits the size of a watermelon: )), so there is a problem of incompatibility between the scion and the rootstock. Recently, they began to insert the "middle", which is a kind of adapter-adapter between them. Which, of course, does not add to the vitality of the entire structure.)))
If, nevertheless, we talk about grafted seedlings (which most are used to, because the market does not offer anything else), then you will get the best quality when you sow a seed in a permanent place, then you graft it. But why? ... When you can immediately get an unvaccinated excellent seedling :) A healthy, winter-hardy, strong tree, long-living, with strong immunity, early bearing, with seeds that transmit the characteristics of a parent tree :)
Dream? ... reality! :)
An ungrafted tree transfers its qualities to its offspring, of course, there is a chance of cross-pollination by nearby growing trees, but still the maternal qualities will prevail.
They say: "The wild will grow if you plant it with a bone!" But the "wild" in the offspring is a rootstock that has always shown itself, it tries to get in and convey its qualities. This is my discovery. I will promote it and confirm it by experience :)
Non-grafted seedlings pass on their qualities to their offspring much better, almost 100%. Experience speaks about this, but no one has directly indicated this yet :)
But, I strongly advise, especially trees (because they have a powerful taproot, which develops actively in the first years of the tree's life, the support of the tree's life, health and frost resistance), to plant with seeds. The length of the tree roots exceeds its height by tens and even hundreds of times. Can you imagine what happens to the transplant? ... And this will never recover, because the taproot is formed in the first years of life, and especially intensively in the first year!
I grow seedlings of plants, I try to give them to people for planting at a young age. Many people said to me: "Are you selling sprouted seeds? I thought you had normal seedlings!" :) And they refuse. Not guessing that it is only a seed that has hatched or a young sprouted seedling can give a good and fertile, strong and frost-resistant, disease-resistant tree. And you can grow a two-meter "normal" stick, but why? If the harvest comes from her later, if she gets sick and suffers from improper late planting, and, of course, in 15-20 years, it can be bent. And you will have to go to the seller for a new seedling. This is all the market. It is profitable to produce such grafted seedlings that live little. Because the consumer gardener becomes addicted. It is necessary to constantly rejuvenate the garden, besides, to fight against pests and diseases ...
Even the grafted seedling disrupts the crown growth program. The plant is confused, the crown grows clumsy, ugly. If you saw apple trees in the gardens, you probably drew on the unsightly and clumsy crown. Here, just a pruning is needed, someone will say, then after pruning, constant pruning will be needed, because everything is confused at the end and the branches begin to grow already "anywhere", shading themselves :)
Have you seen an apple tree grown from a seed? This is an unusually beautiful tree-fountain, whose branches gracefully bend to the ground (as in that fairy tale about the cow, if anyone remembers). This, by the way, makes a lot of sense: with its branches, the apple tree protects the trunk from mice. And branches can also take root. This is how interesting and beautiful everything is in God's program. :)
And also imagine what fruits and energy you taste in one and the second case. With a grafted and weak transplant, a seedling cannot give a person strength and health. It will convey only what he himself is rich in: stress, weakness, a state of struggle for life, etc.
The fruit from a tree grown with a bone in a permanent place will be healing, the power of the plant will nourish it with the energy of life, the power of health and joy.
An apple tree has wild fruits on one branch. Can the whole apple tree be reborn, and what to do with this branch with wild fruits.
Ekaterina Ushakova.
from. Nekrasovka
Excess nutrition provokes the awakening of the dormant buds of the wild part
The wild apple tree has overtaken the varietal branches
Before answering this question, I will give examples. As part of the promotion of achievements and experience, employees of the gardening department of the DalNIISH every spring visited summer cottages with consultations, and performed vaccinations. Once I was approached by a summer resident from the Zvezda society on the left bank of the Amur with a request to re-graft an apple tree. She bought a plot with a beautiful orchard, there were bountiful harvests of large apples, but after three years many branches of the wild appeared on the apple trees, and the cultivated harvest became negligible.
I had cuttings of the newest varieties, but in this case I only needed a file and a garden pitch. Why didn't I re-graft the wild branches, but removed them?
The crown of apple trees was formed by an experienced gardener on the skeleton of a Siberian berry apple tree, which, as you know, is the most winter-hardy stock, which also increases the winter hardiness of cultivars grafted onto it. The crown has already been formed and the branches of the skeleton are grafted with cultivars. Why did the branches of the wild apple tree begin to overtake cultural shoots in development, suppressing their development and fruiting?
The answer is in biology. Our aborigine, a Siberian berry apple tree, wakes up a couple of weeks earlier than ranetki, three weeks earlier than a semi-cultured apple tree, and a month earlier than a home apple tree. If a cultivar is grafted onto a Siberian apple tree, then the root system of the tree wakes up before the vegetative part. An excess of nutrition provokes the awakening of the dormant buds of the wild part, and they, starting the growing season with a run relative to the buds of the scion, begin to interact with the roots earlier. The transport of substances is readjusted in the direction of the actively developing part.
If such an awakened wild kidney is in favorable conditions, it can "shoot" the leaders even in one year and the next season give a bountiful harvest of small apple berries, if in "unfavorable" conditions, then this will happen in a maximum of three years, which happened in hostess of the site. Having freed the cultural shoots from the captivity of the wild, he marked the grafting sites with bright ropes, and recommended annually to clean the trunks from the rootstock growth. And he did not re-graft the removed branches, because the crown was formed earlier, and the varieties of grafted skeletal branches, according to the mistress, were excellent.
Overreaching would require replacing branches with their formation again from new grafts, which would necessitate long-term education of productivity. And so already in the year of removal of the wild branches thickening the crown on the skeleton-former, the cultural part of the apple-tree skeleton restored productivity.
In seedlings grafted into the root collar zone, it is also possible, especially at a young age, in the spring and early summer, the appearance of rootstock growth, and its timely (as early as possible) removal is part of the necessary agricultural technology. And this applies not only to apple trees, but to all crops whose seedlings are grafted. The emergence of overgrowth is especially active after severe winters, when the conductive tissues are damaged, and the transport of nutrients is hampered in the spring.
In such cases, it is necessary to help the plant recover by giving abundant watering, feeding and curbing the irrepressible energy of the rootstock by total stripping. Novice gardeners also often "lose" varieties when creating a garden tree in the crown of a cultivar, leaving the grafts unattended. Competition between tree shoots can also be noticed when artificially formed, therefore, to maintain the desired shape, the trees in the garden will need to be "corrected" annually.
Another thing is own-rooted culture (without grafting), it is common for cherries, currants, gooseberries, favorable for plum varieties that are not prone to the formation of root shoots, and possibly for an apple tree, I have been interested in this question since 2000.
The apple tree is capable of rooting - the formation of roots on the shoots under the influence of stimulants. Adolf Semenovich Vavilov, a well-known blackcurrant breeder of Khabarovsk, defended his dissertation on apple rootstock "Narrow-leaved" and "Holly-leaved", propagated by green cuttings, the seaside clone stock "Progress" was propagated by cuttings.
I received a number of self-rooted plants of Bolonyaev's semi-crops, at present I propagate purple ranetka, Orlov and Ural apple varieties by cuttings, I believe that for each region it is possible to select varieties from a zoned assortment that have sufficient winter hardiness on their own roots. Such plants, which do not have a wild part, unlike grafted ones, will be able to recover from root growth in case of crown damage, for example, by a sunburn, and do not require special knowledge of the gardener to combat the "degeneration" from the development of wild growth.
Nikolay Glaz, Head horticulture department YUNIISK, Candidate of Agricultural Sciences